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  DFed, more positive or negative?

  by Sheepish in

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  just musing.... from the vantage point of being "out", it seems to me that being dfed would be really, really painful, but ultimately a good thing.

  (i was shunned by my family when i finally left though, so i know a little of what a dfed person goes through, although i didn't put myself through going back to meetings and being shunned) .

  i was publicly reproved, and was not allowed to answer in meetings, but i was not shunned.

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  AND THEY HAVE YOU JUMP THROUGH OODLES OF HOOPS TO COME BACK. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MEASURE UP TO THEIR STANDARDS WHICH IN SOME HALLS ARE EXTREMELY HARSH.

  I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I TRIED. IT WAS HELL. I FINALLY GAVE UP AND SAID F*** IT ALL - I'M SICK OF THEIR GAMES. IF WHAT THEY SAY IS TRUE ABOUT ARMAGGEDON THEN I'LL DIE, BUT ATLEAST I'M NOT FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE. JUST GOT TIRED OF IT AND NO ONE UNDERSTANDS AS THEY ARE THESE PROGRAMMED ZOMBIES.

  If the borganization was so loving all you would have to do is say "I'm sorry" and all would be forgiven. It's not about forgivenss, a clean congregation, reproach or any thing else. It's all about control. Period.

  Disfellowshipping was the best thing in the world for me. I should send my ex a thank you note for making it happen. I'm so glad I didn't get my family to join in on my stupidity.

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  DFed, more positive or negative?

  by Sheepish in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just musing.... from the vantage point of being "out", it seems to me that being dfed would be really, really painful, but ultimately a good thing.

  (i was shunned by my family when i finally left though, so i know a little of what a dfed person goes through, although i didn't put myself through going back to meetings and being shunned) .

  i was publicly reproved, and was not allowed to answer in meetings, but i was not shunned.

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  The only difference from being in prison and being a JW is self-awareness. The prisoners know they are in prison. The JW’s don’t have a clue or just refuse to admit it.

  Very well said seven .. defd still doesn't realize that his heart and mind have been imprisoned by the WTBTS, the GB or whom/whatever else were involved in his indoctrination. He is so far gone I don't know if he'll ever wake up. What a miserable existence ... though I'm sure he doesn't think so. He's content to be a grown man disciplined by other grown men like some rebellious child ... though not really. Real parents who love their children don't treat them the way loving elder bodies do. I can't go one day without speaking to my children. I can't imagine what they would have to do for me to act like they didn't exist. And yet people get disfellowshipped all the time in the Borg. Funny, excommunication is rare among Catholics yet dubs actually believe they are the ones bearing the mark of true love. Dysfunction at it's highest .

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  Jan 1st WT: Reaching out, Higher Education and Providing for one's needs

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, as a nice start to the new year, the jan 1st watchtower article, "how firm is your trust in god" blasts those who live comfortable lives, those who don't reach out, and those who pursue higher education.. definitely, they are taking a harsher stand, having completely painted themselves into a corner.. i highlighted the interesting comments.

  i did not include all the text for each paragraph, just the main points.. .

  1 a young man wanted to be more useful to the congregation.

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  Witnesses of course are discouraged from making anything of their lives and to completely ignore any natural talent you might have. The never-ending cycle of studying for meetings, attending meetings, reading all the literature, preparing for Service, going out in Service, going to ASSemblies, is a big turn off for many. When you add the brow-beating of never doing enough, WT studies that scorn higher education and the never-ending guilt, it's no surprise that the Mormons are growing faster than the Witnesses.

  Very, very well said, Mary. This is the main reason that I personally am against the JW religion. The GB robs people of their quality of life for the promise of a reward they cannot possibly give. Just reading all those requirements makes me feel ill. sweet tee
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  Did you hear about the congregation where.........

  by enlightenedcynic in

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  i am new to the board and am looking forward to many insightful discussions here.. a good friend of mine attends a congregation where sisters are working behind both the literature and magazine counters.

  the brothers who were handling those responsibilities were removed because in the elder body's opinion, none of them were "exemplerary".police officer explained that save for the elders and a few of the ministerial servants, none of the men in the congregation were meeting the national average in field service time, so for the foreseeable future, "exemplerary".

  the irony here though is that the same men who are unfit to handle the literature and magazine counters are qualified to offer opening and closing prayer for meetings and do reading for the watchtower study.

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  bout time the sis get some recognition hehhe

  They're not getting recognition es, they're just being used. True recognition would come from the botchtower. I don't think that's gonna happen.
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  Do jw youths understand

  by carla in

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  do jw youths understand that if they just didn't get baptized their parents would not be able to shun them later?

  they must be able to see how this works in other families.

  is it feasable for a jw teen to reject baptism?

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  I learnd that some youths bucked the system by merely 'flunking' the baptismal questions .
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  Do jw youths understand

  by carla in

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  do jw youths understand that if they just didn't get baptized their parents would not be able to shun them later?

  they must be able to see how this works in other families.

  is it feasable for a jw teen to reject baptism?

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  Just a small aside ... I could have asked this question when a 'brother' came to my door with his teenaged companion:

  "Is it true, that JW's pressure their children to get baptized ... why is that .... what happens if they change their mind when they get older ... will their own family shun them?"

  Might make a young person think twice.
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  Did you hear about the congregation where.........

  by enlightenedcynic in

  1. jw
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  i am new to the board and am looking forward to many insightful discussions here.. a good friend of mine attends a congregation where sisters are working behind both the literature and magazine counters.

  the brothers who were handling those responsibilities were removed because in the elder body's opinion, none of them were "exemplerary".police officer explained that save for the elders and a few of the ministerial servants, none of the men in the congregation were meeting the national average in field service time, so for the foreseeable future, "exemplerary".

  the irony here though is that the same men who are unfit to handle the literature and magazine counters are qualified to offer opening and closing prayer for meetings and do reading for the watchtower study.

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  Welcome to the board enlightenedcynic!

  This one got me:

  Being baptized is not enough; the brother has to be able to read and do math as well as be in good standing. I can remember being in a book study that had 2 brothers including the conductor. One was on restrictions and the other could not read anything at all.

  I can't imagine Jesus putting ANYONE on restriction!!!!! Was Peter on restriction after he denied Christ three times? These people are nuts. They treat each other with such disdain it's no wonder new ones are coming to the board every day. What sane person can continue putting up with this nonsensical childlike treatment? Doesn't being an adult matter anymore? How about having a little diginity? Why must you be humiliated, shamed, disgraced and judged just to be a part of God's 'clean organization' of 'happy people' . And yet and still, many of them won't believe they are in a cult!

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  JW guns down woman, self

  by LDH in

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  http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/361673p-307958c.html

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  I agree finallyfree. People need to know and understand that JW's have the same problems everyone has. They are human after all, and should stop putting themselves upon a false pedastal of piety while hypocritically judging everyone else as wicked, miserable and misled. Reminds me jgnat comment in another thread about "Jehovah's happy people" . Just cause you say it doesn't make it so.

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  Jan 1st WT: Reaching out, Higher Education and Providing for one's needs

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, as a nice start to the new year, the jan 1st watchtower article, "how firm is your trust in god" blasts those who live comfortable lives, those who don't reach out, and those who pursue higher education.. definitely, they are taking a harsher stand, having completely painted themselves into a corner.. i highlighted the interesting comments.

  i did not include all the text for each paragraph, just the main points.. .

  1 a young man wanted to be more useful to the congregation.

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  THEREFORE, why can't they just trust their members to be balanced, to make the right decision for THEM, why can't they just trust that through prayer and meditation, they can find the answer as to whether or not they should go to university or college, THEMSELVES???

  Hmm Jez ... that sounds a lot like independent thinking. When I started thinking for myself I figured out that they couldn't be the one and only way to God. Then I left. I truly hope that the up and coming GB members will relax the rules for the R&F but I don't know what it would take, or how long for that to happen. From what I read here it sounds like many are getting fed up just as I was with all the 'do more, get by on little or nothing, wait on the kingdum' gibberish. I say in 5 years the WTBS will be just a fraction of its former self.

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  Words...from God???????

  by Sunspot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  words from god???.

  "heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

  " matthew 24:35. this is speaking about the word of god, the bible.. can you say this about the myriad of countless numbers of books and various publications published by the wts?.

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  I have become so frustrated trying to get a straight answer from these apologists that I just refuse to pay them any attention anymore.

  They refuse to reason. They resort to personal attack, red herring, or circular reason in nearly each case.

  Yet, everytime certain ones pop in with the most inane of ideas they get 8 pages of replies as if they are best friends with all these people here.

  Here, Here!!! I still hope SOMEONE can help them though.

  sweet tee